of resonance there, but by the same token, he was kind of an outlaw, because he had been vilified by the academy. So when it came time to seize these new means of technology in order to try to create new kinds of enterprises—be it magazines like Wired or our own shift , or be it other forms of enterprise (and here I’m thinking of somebody like Bill Gates who manages to take something from entertainment and games and turn it into a new kind of techno-empire)—in that context, I think we see another generational factor, and that is that McLuhan isn’t identified with some establishment, and his words seem to have a certain resonance, a certain kind of relevance. And I think that helps us